My question involves defamation in the state of: California
My most recent relationship ended with me uncovering lies about other women. To start this person is more than a player and womanizer. After I found a list of over 100 women he had written, I took it upon myself to get answers. I did create a private chat group for most of these women to talk. There were shared stories of stalking, threats, B&E (all unreported) and we discovered he was taking naked picture of us without or knowledge while sleeping. These women were scared of him but were to afraid to ever come forward. Emotions were high on how we unraveled the truth about his narcissistic and sociopathic patterns with women. We are now aware of how many women he has unprotected sex with at any given time without their knowledge. I truly hope someday there is a law against this because I see it as nonconsensual sex with a third party/rape. One woman made a strong claim that would be hard to prove (herpes). A woman screenshot the chats and sent it to him. He made claims to his family that I was the leader of a hate mob and he was the victim. He even wrote us a VERY lengthy email depicting his disgust for us all talking together. It was riddled with lies and showed hatred for me and extra emotional instability. I knew right then that I could be unsafe for doing the right thing in allowing these women to tell their side of the story privately. I am ex military and work with LAPD and private security times. Rarely do I feel unsafe. Most of our conversations are out of support, love and empowering each other and not out of hate. Of course I was threatened with slander, defamation of character and liable for reveling the facts to women he already victimized. Upon advise from an uncle, he said I can call him every name in the book to the public but I cannot make statements that can be proven false and anything to prove he lost work.
Some of these women have suffered mental, physically and emotional abuse. Most of which went unreported. I have become the head and they look to me for answers. His ex wife came forward with a story that he did physically strangle her and gave her stitches in her head (unreported). He plead guilty to Domestic Violence when he dragged her by he hair and locked her outside half naked (neighbors call cops). He got a slap on the wrist with corrective classes. Upon a background check his records showed the DM charge, possession (dismissed), traffic violations. I was aware he was in an assault case. I found the women and learned about her protection order. I had witnessed him violate several of the terms. He even left a hearing in CO, purchased weed and crossed state lines with it. Literally violating the PO after signing it. So many of us wrote statements for the case. He came aware and took the guilty plea again getting a slap on the wrist. He literally has abused women for over two decades and gets away with it because of women not reporting.
Now with this Harvey Weinstein case, it has become my passion project to protect innocent women. From what I see with HW, many people were aware of his abuse but didn't come forward. To me that's almost guilty of association. So many women came forward with their stories but we fear HW will claim there is no proof to their allegations and its hearsay without police reports or evidence. My girls have felt more empowered than ever to come forward with their stories. I am very proud that they no longer want to hide. With HW, I feel that laws are about to shift in our favor to protect future women from abuse. My question is how? We want to know what we can legally do to start warning others of his abuse and maybe even protect his future victims. It is our right to protect the innocent. Unfortunately the law works against us and its very sad. We keep getting hit with things like defamation. How is it defamation that with all my testimonies from his victims, its established character and established pattern of life.
We learned about copy rights and social media rights when dealing with a public figure. We have an account of pictures, each woman took themselves with him. So we have the rights to them. There is no slander other then the bio says "do a background check". All text are things we have proof of and are public knowledge. Again, its not slander or defamation if we have proof to the claims and its established character. Am I correct? it is very sad that our efforts are limited to silly social media like school girls. I want these women to have a voice without fear of legal ramifications for coming forward.
How do many come forward? How do women protect each other? How do we legally warn others? What can be done to protect future victims? and maybe, what laws need to be revised so there this is easier for future generations to protect themselves. I am not crying wolf as a hurt ex, the time is not to address these issues. I want to go back to these women with words of hope. Please help.
My most recent relationship ended with me uncovering lies about other women. To start this person is more than a player and womanizer. After I found a list of over 100 women he had written, I took it upon myself to get answers. I did create a private chat group for most of these women to talk. There were shared stories of stalking, threats, B&E (all unreported) and we discovered he was taking naked picture of us without or knowledge while sleeping. These women were scared of him but were to afraid to ever come forward. Emotions were high on how we unraveled the truth about his narcissistic and sociopathic patterns with women. We are now aware of how many women he has unprotected sex with at any given time without their knowledge. I truly hope someday there is a law against this because I see it as nonconsensual sex with a third party/rape. One woman made a strong claim that would be hard to prove (herpes). A woman screenshot the chats and sent it to him. He made claims to his family that I was the leader of a hate mob and he was the victim. He even wrote us a VERY lengthy email depicting his disgust for us all talking together. It was riddled with lies and showed hatred for me and extra emotional instability. I knew right then that I could be unsafe for doing the right thing in allowing these women to tell their side of the story privately. I am ex military and work with LAPD and private security times. Rarely do I feel unsafe. Most of our conversations are out of support, love and empowering each other and not out of hate. Of course I was threatened with slander, defamation of character and liable for reveling the facts to women he already victimized. Upon advise from an uncle, he said I can call him every name in the book to the public but I cannot make statements that can be proven false and anything to prove he lost work.
Some of these women have suffered mental, physically and emotional abuse. Most of which went unreported. I have become the head and they look to me for answers. His ex wife came forward with a story that he did physically strangle her and gave her stitches in her head (unreported). He plead guilty to Domestic Violence when he dragged her by he hair and locked her outside half naked (neighbors call cops). He got a slap on the wrist with corrective classes. Upon a background check his records showed the DM charge, possession (dismissed), traffic violations. I was aware he was in an assault case. I found the women and learned about her protection order. I had witnessed him violate several of the terms. He even left a hearing in CO, purchased weed and crossed state lines with it. Literally violating the PO after signing it. So many of us wrote statements for the case. He came aware and took the guilty plea again getting a slap on the wrist. He literally has abused women for over two decades and gets away with it because of women not reporting.
Now with this Harvey Weinstein case, it has become my passion project to protect innocent women. From what I see with HW, many people were aware of his abuse but didn't come forward. To me that's almost guilty of association. So many women came forward with their stories but we fear HW will claim there is no proof to their allegations and its hearsay without police reports or evidence. My girls have felt more empowered than ever to come forward with their stories. I am very proud that they no longer want to hide. With HW, I feel that laws are about to shift in our favor to protect future women from abuse. My question is how? We want to know what we can legally do to start warning others of his abuse and maybe even protect his future victims. It is our right to protect the innocent. Unfortunately the law works against us and its very sad. We keep getting hit with things like defamation. How is it defamation that with all my testimonies from his victims, its established character and established pattern of life.
We learned about copy rights and social media rights when dealing with a public figure. We have an account of pictures, each woman took themselves with him. So we have the rights to them. There is no slander other then the bio says "do a background check". All text are things we have proof of and are public knowledge. Again, its not slander or defamation if we have proof to the claims and its established character. Am I correct? it is very sad that our efforts are limited to silly social media like school girls. I want these women to have a voice without fear of legal ramifications for coming forward.
How do many come forward? How do women protect each other? How do we legally warn others? What can be done to protect future victims? and maybe, what laws need to be revised so there this is easier for future generations to protect themselves. I am not crying wolf as a hurt ex, the time is not to address these issues. I want to go back to these women with words of hope. Please help.
Harvey Weinstein - Knowing How to Protect the Innocent
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