PayrolGuy, your 01-02-2018 response to Starfire229
is stunningly indifferent and insouciant towards her, as are all of your responses to the victims/survivors of criminal abuse towards children on this site. Before you go into another one of your self-righteous tirades about how tortured and abused children are supposed to automatically have the acumen and wherewithal of adults when they are trapped in severe long-term violent abusive homes and somehow instinctively gain the ability to have the courage, bravery, guts and intelligent thinking of an adult forced into the same situation, show some further emotional intelligence first. Criminal Child Abuse always places the child into stressful modes of self-survival in highly dangerous situations alone with the abuser(s), forcing the child to exercise judgment, decisions and actions, for the sake of their own immediate safety, well-beyond a typical child’s years and developmental and emotional capacities.
And often times, well beyond the mental capacities of their own abusers.
“There have been children that sued their parents and won but they are rare enough that it is still news when it happens.”
That’s a staggering statement that is as sick as it is true. In light of the fact that:
- Every year more than 3 million reports of child abuse are made in the United States involving more than 6 million children,
- A report of child abuse is made every ten seconds in the US alone,
- And in 2016, state agencies found an estimated 686,000 victims of child maltreatment, enough to pack 10 modern football stadiums.
However, the sickening truth remains that societal indifference and apathy (such as your own) towards even the very basic of human rights being upheld for children , continues to strip children of the full rights that they deserve. Therefore, deliberately blocking any recourse to relief and justice from the justice system: the same access to judicial relief that any adult would receive if it was an adult being assaulted in the same manner. Examples: the highly discriminatory Statutes of Limitations on pursuing claims of dangerous crimes committed against children, placing “parental authority” above the basic human rights of children, punitive placement of child abuse victims into revolving foster homes, etc. In all reality, it is the Abuser who needs to be yanked from the home and incarcerated into foster care!
Those are just some of the reasons why “There have been children that sued their parents and won but they are rare enough that it is still news when it happens.” Children suing criminal parents should be as routine as any adult assault case, not “...rare enough that it is still news when it happens.”
“Is you mother wealthy?”
Ok, fine. Lets just prosecute wealthy abusers, and screw the victims of abusers who live below the poverty line. If you are a financially poor abuser you are far more likely to get away with your crimes. Lawyers, after all, are committed to profitable case outcomes, not the welfare of children. Brilliant.
“If not what do you expect to get from suing her?”
The the depth of ignorance in this question is truly beyond comprehension.
Did you not hear any one single voice of the 150+ victim/survivors of Larry Nasser’s abuse of them
when they spoke of their pain & suffering publicly in court?
Are you completely deaf to the voices of the 4,444 people who came forward to a government inquiry of incidents of child sexual abuse relating to 93 Catholic Church authorities that took place in more than 1,000 institutions in Australia and spoke publicly of their pain & suffering?
How about the victim voices of 1,795 reports of church-related sex abuse of minors in the Netherlands?
The voices of the victims of 4000+ USA priest abusers?
The 1,400+ Irish schoolchildren victims?
And that’s just the beginning….
If you listen to the voices of adult survivors of childhood abuse, you will clearly understand exactly what they “...expect to get from suing her?”. Or maybe you can’t understand that full accountability of the child abuser’s own actions by the abuser him/herself, and appropriate legal repercussions of the abusers crimes are far more important to the victim/survivors than any amount of money. Your closed-minded and cavalier attitude regarding the lifetime psychological, emotional, physical repercussions of sustained childhood abuse is on full display in your question.
Your statement “If you were 17 and still had 3 years of school in front of you it sounds like you weren't doing much with the time you were in school.” is so insulting it does not even make any sense.
In short, there is no path to forgiveness and healing in the absence of accountability and repercussion, that is why we sue.
(Approx. 30 additional reports of child abuse was made in the time it took you to read this reply, just in the US alone.)
is stunningly indifferent and insouciant towards her, as are all of your responses to the victims/survivors of criminal abuse towards children on this site. Before you go into another one of your self-righteous tirades about how tortured and abused children are supposed to automatically have the acumen and wherewithal of adults when they are trapped in severe long-term violent abusive homes and somehow instinctively gain the ability to have the courage, bravery, guts and intelligent thinking of an adult forced into the same situation, show some further emotional intelligence first. Criminal Child Abuse always places the child into stressful modes of self-survival in highly dangerous situations alone with the abuser(s), forcing the child to exercise judgment, decisions and actions, for the sake of their own immediate safety, well-beyond a typical child’s years and developmental and emotional capacities.
And often times, well beyond the mental capacities of their own abusers.
“There have been children that sued their parents and won but they are rare enough that it is still news when it happens.”
That’s a staggering statement that is as sick as it is true. In light of the fact that:
- Every year more than 3 million reports of child abuse are made in the United States involving more than 6 million children,
- A report of child abuse is made every ten seconds in the US alone,
- And in 2016, state agencies found an estimated 686,000 victims of child maltreatment, enough to pack 10 modern football stadiums.
However, the sickening truth remains that societal indifference and apathy (such as your own) towards even the very basic of human rights being upheld for children , continues to strip children of the full rights that they deserve. Therefore, deliberately blocking any recourse to relief and justice from the justice system: the same access to judicial relief that any adult would receive if it was an adult being assaulted in the same manner. Examples: the highly discriminatory Statutes of Limitations on pursuing claims of dangerous crimes committed against children, placing “parental authority” above the basic human rights of children, punitive placement of child abuse victims into revolving foster homes, etc. In all reality, it is the Abuser who needs to be yanked from the home and incarcerated into foster care!
Those are just some of the reasons why “There have been children that sued their parents and won but they are rare enough that it is still news when it happens.” Children suing criminal parents should be as routine as any adult assault case, not “...rare enough that it is still news when it happens.”
“Is you mother wealthy?”
Ok, fine. Lets just prosecute wealthy abusers, and screw the victims of abusers who live below the poverty line. If you are a financially poor abuser you are far more likely to get away with your crimes. Lawyers, after all, are committed to profitable case outcomes, not the welfare of children. Brilliant.
“If not what do you expect to get from suing her?”
The the depth of ignorance in this question is truly beyond comprehension.
Did you not hear any one single voice of the 150+ victim/survivors of Larry Nasser’s abuse of them
when they spoke of their pain & suffering publicly in court?
Are you completely deaf to the voices of the 4,444 people who came forward to a government inquiry of incidents of child sexual abuse relating to 93 Catholic Church authorities that took place in more than 1,000 institutions in Australia and spoke publicly of their pain & suffering?
How about the victim voices of 1,795 reports of church-related sex abuse of minors in the Netherlands?
The voices of the victims of 4000+ USA priest abusers?
The 1,400+ Irish schoolchildren victims?
And that’s just the beginning….
If you listen to the voices of adult survivors of childhood abuse, you will clearly understand exactly what they “...expect to get from suing her?”. Or maybe you can’t understand that full accountability of the child abuser’s own actions by the abuser him/herself, and appropriate legal repercussions of the abusers crimes are far more important to the victim/survivors than any amount of money. Your closed-minded and cavalier attitude regarding the lifetime psychological, emotional, physical repercussions of sustained childhood abuse is on full display in your question.
Your statement “If you were 17 and still had 3 years of school in front of you it sounds like you weren't doing much with the time you were in school.” is so insulting it does not even make any sense.
In short, there is no path to forgiveness and healing in the absence of accountability and repercussion, that is why we sue.
(Approx. 30 additional reports of child abuse was made in the time it took you to read this reply, just in the US alone.)
You Should Be Able to Sue Your Parents for Abuse
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